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Which date do you prefer for the fall of Troy?
As this war was considered among the ancient Greeks as the last event of the mythical age or the first event of the historical epoch, several dates are given for the fall of Troy.
They usually come from the genealogies of the kings:
Douris of Samos and Timaeus of Tauroménion gives 1344 BC, (1344 to 1334 BC, for Douris of Samos?).
And from 1202 to 1192 BC. J.-C. for the Timaeus of Tauromenion.
Eretes gives from 1300 to 1290 BC,(or 1301 to 1291 BC).
Herodotus gives from 1280 to 1270 BC, (or around 1250 BC).
Dicarque gives from 1222 to 1212 BC.
Hellanicos, Ephorus of Cumae and Chronicle of Paros give from 1218 to 1208 BC.
Dicaearchus gives 1212 BC.
Hecataeus and Thucydides give from 1210 to 1200 BC.
The marble parien gives 1209 av. J.-C. / 1208 BC.
Maneton and Julian the African give from 1208 to 1198.
Timaeus of Tauroménion gives from 1202 to 1192.
Velleius Paterculus gives from 1200 to 1190.
Eratosthenes, Apollodorus of Athens, Diodorus of Sicily, Castor of Rhodes, Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Eusebius of Caesarea and Orosus, from 1194 to 1184 BC,(but also 1184/1183 BC for Eratosthenes and 1193 BC for Denys of Halicarnassus).
Timaeus gives 1193 BC.
Girolamos gives from 1192 to 1182 BC.
Sosibios of Laconia and Eratosthenes give 1183 BC/ 1184 BC.
But also from 1182 to 1172 BC for Sosibios and from 1194 to 1184 BC for Eratosthenes…
Sosibius (Sosibios of Laconia) gives from 1182 to 1172 BC.
Artemon of Clazomenes and Democritus give from 1160 to 1150 BC.
Ephorus gives 1135 BC.
As for the exact day, (from the fall of Troy I suppose?) Ephore gives 23/24 Thargelion (6 or 7 May), Hellanicus 12 Thargelion (26 May) while others give the 23rd of Sciroforion (7 July) or the 23rd of Ponamos (October 7th).
The glorious and rich city that Homer describes was considered as Trojan VI by many authors of the twentieth century, destroyed in 1275 BC, probably by an earthquake.
His disciple Troy VIIa, destroyed by fire at some point during the years 1180 BC, has long been considered a poorer city, but since the 1988 excavation campaign, it has become the most likely candidate.
All this is interesting to know what types of armor, shields and weapons must carry our figures and also what types of chariots, not to mention the tactics used?
Paskal
As this war was considered among the ancient Greeks as the last event of the mythical age or the first event of the historical epoch, several dates are given for the fall of Troy.
They usually come from the genealogies of the kings:
Douris of Samos and Timaeus of Tauroménion gives 1344 BC, (1344 to 1334 BC, for Douris of Samos?).
And from 1202 to 1192 BC. J.-C. for the Timaeus of Tauromenion.
Eretes gives from 1300 to 1290 BC,(or 1301 to 1291 BC).
Herodotus gives from 1280 to 1270 BC, (or around 1250 BC).
Dicarque gives from 1222 to 1212 BC.
Hellanicos, Ephorus of Cumae and Chronicle of Paros give from 1218 to 1208 BC.
Dicaearchus gives 1212 BC.
Hecataeus and Thucydides give from 1210 to 1200 BC.
The marble parien gives 1209 av. J.-C. / 1208 BC.
Maneton and Julian the African give from 1208 to 1198.
Timaeus of Tauroménion gives from 1202 to 1192.
Velleius Paterculus gives from 1200 to 1190.
Eratosthenes, Apollodorus of Athens, Diodorus of Sicily, Castor of Rhodes, Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Eusebius of Caesarea and Orosus, from 1194 to 1184 BC,(but also 1184/1183 BC for Eratosthenes and 1193 BC for Denys of Halicarnassus).
Timaeus gives 1193 BC.
Girolamos gives from 1192 to 1182 BC.
Sosibios of Laconia and Eratosthenes give 1183 BC/ 1184 BC.
But also from 1182 to 1172 BC for Sosibios and from 1194 to 1184 BC for Eratosthenes…
Sosibius (Sosibios of Laconia) gives from 1182 to 1172 BC.
Artemon of Clazomenes and Democritus give from 1160 to 1150 BC.
Ephorus gives 1135 BC.
As for the exact day, (from the fall of Troy I suppose?) Ephore gives 23/24 Thargelion (6 or 7 May), Hellanicus 12 Thargelion (26 May) while others give the 23rd of Sciroforion (7 July) or the 23rd of Ponamos (October 7th).
The glorious and rich city that Homer describes was considered as Trojan VI by many authors of the twentieth century, destroyed in 1275 BC, probably by an earthquake.
His disciple Troy VIIa, destroyed by fire at some point during the years 1180 BC, has long been considered a poorer city, but since the 1988 excavation campaign, it has become the most likely candidate.
All this is interesting to know what types of armor, shields and weapons must carry our figures and also what types of chariots, not to mention the tactics used?
Paskal
...Il faut peut-être expliquer que Paskal ayant posé cette question ("Quelle date préférez-vous pour la chute de Troie ?") en anglais sur le forum TWW, il y a eu plusieurs réponses d'habitués de ce forum, une partie sérieuses, quelques autres avec des jeux de mot sur les autres sens du mot "date" en anglais (rendez-vous ; ou datte)
Autant pour moi. Mon esprit malveillant avait encore frappé. 